Rally School Gift Certificates ...
now available!
The Perfect gift for rally enthusiast!
$725buys your loved one an
entry into Primitive's exciting 2.5 day Rally School
Portland Program INCLUDING
a SEAT in an AWD Rally Car. The school includes an information-packed
classroom session, with discussion of driving lines, braking
points, and the secrets of speed
on dirt, then two action-packed days of instructional and rallycross driving.
The next scheduled school is coming up .
Find further information for ordering below. PORTLAND
AREA schools only
Order your gift instruction today!!
Frequently Asked Questions
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below -
Pay for
Basic Rally School Gift Certificate by PayPal
... just click on the logo on the left. INCLUDES RENTAL
CAR. The fee is $725, including the PayPal fee. ($715 if you mail a check)
PORTLAND AREA
schools only
In your e-mail order, please include exact name to be written on the Certificate.
Good for 2 years
Pay for
Basic Rally School Gift Certificate by PayPal
... just click on the logo on the left.
The fee is $396, including the PayPal fee. ($385 if you mail a check) PORTLAND AREA
schools only
In your e-mail order, please include exact name to be written on the Certificate.
Good for 2 years
Please inquire for
RALLY SCHOOL gift certificates for CALIFORNIA, ALASKA or WASHINGTON
schools....
Pay for
NORCAL Rally School October 11-13th 2013 Santa Rosa, CA
Early registration $395 (ends August 10, 2013) or $385 if
you mail a check. Details: HQ is the Best
Western near Sonoma County Fairgrounds where the driving will take place. Use
PRIMITIVE RALLY SCHOOL as the Group Rate.
FULLY REFUNDABLE if your plans change (up to 6 weeks before the event and
we work something out after that).
Pay for
PORTLAND Rally School July or Sept location TBA Extreme
early registration $325 (ends approx May 25, 2013) Details TBA in
February, HQ planned
for....
Pay for
Any 2013 Co-Drivers School by PayPal
... just click on the logo on the left
pay for Regular Registration.
The fee is $98, including the PayPal fee. ($93 if you mail a check)
In your e-mail order, please include your address and phone number.
Pay for
DEPOSIT AWD RENTAL CAR by PayPal
... just click on the logo on the left
pay for seat in a 5-spd AWD Rental Car for any upcoming
PORTLANDRallyySchoolSchool.
$375 including the PayPal fee. ($350 total if you mail a check)
In your e-mail order, please include your height/weight, which SCHOOL and phone
number. We will contact you immediately if rental cars are sold out (and
make alternate arrangements) Read FAQ below for a bit more info on our RENTAL CARS.
Pay for
DEPOSIT FWD RENTAL CAR by PayPal
... just click on the logo on the left
pay for seat in a 5-spd FWD Rental Car for any upcoming
Rally School.
The rental is $295, including the PayPal fee. ($280 total if you mail a check)
In your e-mail order, please include your height/weight, which SCHOOL and phone
number. We will contact you immediately if rental cars are sold out (and
make alternate arrangements) Read FAQ below for a bit more info on our
Front Wheel Drive RENTAL CARS.
NOTE
DATE CHANGE! Norcal Rally School TBA in FALL at the
SONOMA COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS in Santa Rosa, CA The headquarters is moving from the
Marriott to the Best Western, details and group rates to follow.
This exciting 2.5 day weekend allows beginner and advanced students alike
to learn and perfect rally driving techniques in a fun and safe
environment. We begin with a 4 hour groundschool on Friday night at
the HQ hotel to go over car control, driving lines and apexes, car prep,
rally stories and more. Saturday is all about driving in a big dirt
and grass field in dry and wet conditions. With an experienced
instructor onboard, you will drive for nearly 8 hours, learning how to
handle your car, induce a slide, and use sliding to turn the car and exit
a corner like Ken Block. The lunch break will feature a mini STAGE
RALLY where you and a navigator drive a course, make notes, and drive a
transit to service then back for another stage. Learn rally
operations and feel the pressure of competition. After finishing the
afternoon exercises, you will again drive a stage against the clock to see
how you stack up against instructors and students alike. After the
graduation runs we will retire to the Russian River Brewery for some
"bench racing" and beers. Then you still have SUNDAY which is an
SCCA RallyCross competition. Your entry is paid and you show up and
race against others. The RallyCross is open to the public and about
35 "locals" will show up in addition to the 20-25 students expected.
All this for $495! If you need to rent one of our cars, register
early and add $400 for the rental. We sell out early on rental cars!
Portland Area School , LATE
SUMMER 2013
We will be
using the English Gravel Pit or a large field in Astoria or SW Washington this time with a great new course. Friday night groundschool, rollover simulator, driving instruction on Saturday (all day)
with graduation runs then a PRIMITIVE SCCA RallyCross on Sunday.
Regular rate is $465, but extreme early registration is going on now at
$325 (fully refundable) Click above or send a check. We will
get a block of rooms at a hotel nearby for those of you traveling to
the school. MORE INFORMATION as we KNOW IT.
Apologies for the delays and changes....
Chehalis, WA School This
school is tentative for August - October at the Port of Chehalis in
SW Washington. We need to fit in with the Oregon Rally Group schedule. Please let me know if you are
INTERESTED so this school does not get postponed or cancelled.
Driving Sports magazine article, Learning those
Primitive driving skills by Ryan Douthit. posted July 6, 2005.
A students-eye view of the June Primitive Rally School, written by
an experienced auto racing journalist. Douthit is the publisher of
SubieSport magazine, a sister publication of DrivingSports. As
explained in the article, he was one of the students in the June
school.
DrivingSports has also made a video, so readers can view the school
racing action from within the race car. Viewing this exciting
and informative video requires paid-up Driving Sport membership access.
Click HERE to visit.
TYPICAL AGENDA --
Primitive BASIC Rally Driving School
Who:
Open to all licensed drivers, at all
levels of rally and driving experience, with emphasis on BEGINNER to INTERMEDIATE levels.
Personalized instruction is available
What: Three days of instruction starting with about 5 hours
of classroom training on Friday night (approx 5pm-10:15pm)
with short breaks. TSD (Time/Speed/Distance) and DRIVING exercises on Saturday with a full RallyCross
competition on Sunday. All driving in a large, open, safe field.
When: Friday (4:45-10:15pm)
CLASSROOM GROUND SCHOOL (usually at my SHOP in Tigard)
Saturday (7:45am-5:20pm) Driving School at LARGE FIELD
Sunday (8am-5pm) RALLYCROSS
Competition EVENT in same field
Where: Next
schools are ALL over (Portland, Anchorage, Enterprise, Santa Rosa)
Fee: Early
Registration is LESS if paid by check. (MORE
by paypal or CC) click links above or call
Regular
registration (typical price): $425
Send checks to:
Primitive Enterprises
9460 SW Tigard ST Ste 104 Tigard, OR 97223
Is there an ENTRY CAP? Yes, we will be limiting
the school to about 30 students to maintain a good student/teacher ratio and
physical space limitations. We will offer schools later in the year and
ADVANCED schools when we can secure roads.
Can I bring my street car? Yes, any safe car can
be used. No raised trucks or raised SUVs please (small rollover possibility).
Rally prepared cars are fine if not too loud -- we are in the city. Car will get
muddy, but not damaged. Lowered cars will probably scrape the front bumper or
underside of engine bay as some ruts develop. Be warned. Flat tires most common
car issue (only if too low of air pressure-keep above 25psi). We run in a large
open field on GRASS, with no fixed obstacles. It is a safe learning
environment with low risk.
Can I SHARE a car? Yes, we work with shared cars.
It works out very well. Please let us know in advance that you will be sharing
your car with another
student.
I took your school before, do I get a discounted entry?
Yes, returning students now get a substantial discount off the class price.
Call or email me for details. Registration should still be made early to
guarantee a spot.
Do you offer a CO-DRIVER (navigator) School? Yes, it is held in conjunction with the driving school and
shares some of the exercises. For a fee of $85, students sit for the
Friday night classroom session and receive the comprehensive text book.
Then on Saturday they sit with 2 experienced co-drivers, and receive
comprehensive navigating information and training. They also participate
in the infamous "lunch TSD" for some real-life experience.
Can I RENT a car? Yes, there are a rental cars available for the school:
(note you will likely be sharing this car with another student during the day)
The price is PER PERSON.
All-Wheel Drive Rental Cars - $365 (Includes Gas
and Cleaning)
DOES NOT INCLUDE SCHOOL FEE!
All-Wheel Drive Rental Cars -NORCAL - $400 (Includes Gas
and Cleaning)
DOES NOT INCLUDE SCHOOL FEE!
Front-Wheel Drive Rental Cars -
$295 (Includes Gas and Cleaning)
DOES NOT INCLUDE SCHOOL FEE!
Call Paul (503-624-2139) to reserve. YOU MUST CALL EARLY TO RESERVE A
RENTAL CAR!! Our rentals are Great for those flying into town for
the school. Please
note: some cars are under subcontract with local racers and may have specific
restrictions for use. Price includes the one paid session for the Sunday
competition, if you plan to run a "time only" extra session, arrangements must
be made in advance with the car owner. Cars are to remain at the school
overnight and cannot be used for personal transportation.
If I bring my (driver/co-driver) do we get a discounted
price? Yes! If you and your buddy (co-driver, etc) sign up for the full 3 day school you will get a $40 total discount to
share between you both. But those wishing to just attend the
Friday classroom session and get the valuable manual and information and the sit
through a comprehensive Co-driving class or simply watch during the DRIVING day
will get a $10 discount off the Co-Driver school price. We
will also set you up with a seasoned co-driving instructor to answer
navigator specific questions. Friends and family are welcome to come WATCH
on the DRIVING DAY. They must sign the insurance waiver though.
I don't plan to do stage rally, is this still for me?
Yes, although we will go over a broad spectrum of rally topics, we will always
get back to "controlling a car at speed on slippery surfaces." I plan for
this school to be enjoyed by driving enthusiasts, autocrossers, rally fanatics,
new drivers, and Club Rallyists (new and experienced). I can put in
contact with former students if you want a customer opinion. But everyone
seems to leave with a BIG GRIN and increased driving skills.
Does this school help me towards a Rally License?
Yes, we get 2 coefficients from RA (you
need 18 coefficient points for an unrestricted Rally America Stage Rally
license.
Do I need to be a member of a car club to enter?
No, this school is open to anyone. Advanced schools may be limited to SCCA, RA,
or NASA members in the future. We do hope to do an advanced school soon and private
lessons are available on request.
I am only 16 years old, can I attend? Yes, but all students must have a valid driver's license,
current car insurance, and those under the age of 18 must have a
MINOR WAIVER signed by both parents (or guardians) in advance of the school.
Do I have to bring a helmet? No, we will have
loaner helmets available, but if you have your own (SA2000+ or
M rated) helmet you are welcome to bring and use it. We don't want you to lose any seat time waiting for a loaner helmet. I offer
a good deal for students wishing to ORDER their own a helmet in advance. I can deliver a
white or black, open face PYROTECT SA2010 helmet for $178 to any student. (msrp
is $199) Order at least 2 weeks ahead of class to insure
it arrives before the school. Also available in Gloss Black or Flat Black
if you order ahead. Sizes = S, M, L, XL, XXL, and XXXL Medium = 7 1/8"
to 7 1/4"
hat size. Call if you have questions.
I have rally experience, but am looking to get more,
should I come? It depends. Email me at: sales@get-primitive.com and we can
discuss best alternatives, or call 503-624-2139. Primitive Performance Driving
plans to put on Advanced schools later in the year, but that is still tentative.
Are there nearby hotels? Yes, contact us for
the list
IS there MASS TRANSIT to the Site and Hotel?
YES! MAX light rail runs
from the PDX Airport to PIR (1.4 hr ride for
~$2.50).
Will lunch be provided? No, you will be directed
to a restaurant as part of the MINI RALLY Lunch exercise on Saturday, but you do not
have to eat there. Several other places are within a .5 mile of that spot.
Friday night seems like a long time in the classroom
(4:45pm- 10:15pm), will we get a break? Yes, there will be 2 short
breaks, but plan to bring a snack. I will be offering a PIZZA DINNER
option ($6) for Pizza, soft drinks and salad. (PDX school)
Other dinner options available from Marriott at Norcal School
Does my school entry cover my entry fee for the Sunday
RallyCross event? Yes. It covers your school, printed materials, goodie
bag, personal
instruction and seat time, and entry for Sunday's event. It does not include meals,
snacks, or a car.
What about tires, do I do anything special? Make sure that your
tires have 30-40psi and good tread. Clean out loose items from inside your
car and trunk, and be sure that your battery is securely held down into place.
Why not check the oil level and coolant while you are at it ... Rally-type tires
are not needed, nor even recommended. You will learn the most on street
tires.
What about refunds?
Your entry is completely refundable up until 3 weeks before the event
and if the event gets cancelled or postponed. Try to give us as much
notice as possible and we will work to do the same. If you do have to
cancel within that last week, contact me to work out a refund plan (move to next
event or refund less a processing fee, etc) I will work with you.
What else should I bring? Pen, small calculator, sense of adventure, extra
shoes/socks, hat/sunscreen, rain slicker, snack, water bottle, sunglasses,
digital watch, umbrella, rag or towel, possibly a clipboard, tarp or EZ up.
We will OFTEN have Black Sun Racing Services present to provide air for free and
sell, tire
services, minor repairs, car supplies and water, soda, snacks and all important
hot coffee in the morning and cold Red Bull and Gatorade in the afternoon at...
Can I get a cool
PRIMITIVE RALLY TEAM T-Shirt? Sure! We have T-Shirts available at registration for $15 or you
can pre-order when you sign up. We also have a special deal on the nice,
Subaru EXTREME WEATHER emergency kit for your car. $42 for students.
Agenda: Basic Rally
School
FRIDAY GROUND SCHOOL
Welcome and goal setting - Terms and Glossary - Why Navigating is
Important- Car prep and safety basics - Rally Driving Basics -
Driver's Topics
Navigator's Topics
Launches and Mental Preparation to RACE Braking and Turning,
LINES and APEX
Difficult Situations (downhill, too fast, etc) Recovering the car Crashing
Gracefully
Control Operations Route Book & Notes
Controlling the Car/Driver Calling Instructions After a Crash
Driving Techniques - Preparing to win -
Questions and Answers
Advanced Breakout (optional) (10:15pm to
whenever...) at a nearby pub (afterwards)
Topics include BENCH RACING &
IF the instructor is not dead tired:
Red Cross use
Advanced Setup
Team Issues
Driving beyond the edge
Saturday Driving Exercises
Hand Positioning, is yours appropriate?
Finding an apex and the driving line, then FOLLOWING it One-on-one
rally driving instruction with seasoned instructors Skidpad and finding limits of adhesion Trail
braking practice and performing the Scandinavian flick Judging distance to objects
and learning to turn early Hard braking and humility of
understeer, learning to UNSTEER the wheel. Hitting an apex repeatedly and
dealing with changing conditions
Graduation course runs (find out how you stack up against students and
instructors)
Saturday TSD and STAGE RALLY Practice Finding the route Following the route
Basic calculations What to do at a checkpoint
Teamwork under pressure (more important than you think) Making ZEROS (i.e. a
PERFECT SCORE at a checkpoint)
Sunday RallyCross Competition Car preparation,
Personal Preparation (and dealing with the jitters)
Planning for victory; and living with best efforts Recovering from setbacks,
and making improvements
Dealing with the Pressure Dealing with Tire Pressures Course Teardown and
Helping Out
Driving Instructors:
Paul Eklund: long-time rallyist and both Rally and AutoCross
National Champion Jamie "Subiegal" Thomas: accomplished Subaru
driver and enthusiast, recently featured in HotRod and SubieSport magazines Gary Cavett:
Quick rally driver, rarely puts a wheel off-line. Knows the pendulum
turn and just won the Doo Wop Rallies Todd Lengacher: Audi
pilot and long time rallyist in both RWD and AWD, not afraid to toss the car
Andy Howe: Subaru owner, rallycross experience and teaches
autocross--good technical driving knowledge Derek Bottles: Front
Wheel Drive expert and scary fast driver Barrett Dash:
Solid AWD rallyist with good driving technique, easygoing and patient
Scott Kovalik: The love of the sport shines in Scott and becoming
top level RallyCross driver. Ben Trujillo: Natural driving
talent and rally enthusiast, great for rally novices (Idaho)
Jeff Zurschmeide: Long-time motorsports enthusiast, participant and
racing school instructor Doug Heredos: Rear wheel drive instructor, great with new
students Steve Carper: Former Primitive student, now teaching what he
has learned Jon Burke: Northern California RallyCross enthusiast and organizer Carl Jardevall: "the man" when it comes to rally driving and
EVO's (nor cal) Russ Baker: "quiet
and thoughtful" but great teacher and drives the heck out of a car Brent Blakely: National Level competitor and keen to share his
wealth of RallyCross knowledge. Rebecca Ruston: Easy to work with, keen eye to helping student identify
problem areas Blake Lind: Quiet, but exacting and helps extract the maximum of speed,
great technical knowledge Steve Perret: Calm and patient, he can coax speed from all levels of
drivers
Navigator Instructors and Observers:
Kathryn Hansen: hardest working navigator in the USA with HUGE
amounts of experience Ben Bradley: the center of the rally universe.
He knows almost everything and everybody in rallying Scott Huhn:
a true co-driver, with great natural ability on course notes and keeping a
team on the road, car prep too
We will also have a half dozen plus helpers working behind the
scenes to make sure the day goes well: Jeff Price, Steve Greer, Steve
Perret and
Shadd Foster and more...